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SwingX, JRuby: Survivors?


 

Deciding what projects will live and what projects will die once Java has "Property of Oracle" stamped on its behind is, of course, Oracle's job; but predicting those outcomes is good clean fun for everyone, until then! I've already discussed a couple of projects people have been anxious about -- Glassfish and JavaFX; in the last few days, there's been a few peeps about JRuby and Swing.

JRuby encapsulates in miniature some of the way that Sun's open source Java offerings -- including, really, Java itself -- work. It's a free and open source project and "community-driven" project, and therefore it will do absolutely fine in the future, Charles Nutter told an audience at RailsConf. But Nutter is one of JRuby's key developers -- and he's on Sun's payroll. That's the sort of stuff that Sun liked to fund, and the sort of stuff that one suspects that Oracle might not in its historical focus on the bottom line. If Oracle decides to reassign him to something more immediately profitable, it's unlikely that such a well-used project will simply vanish, but it's also likely that its progress will be slowed down.

Then there's Swing. Remember the big debate on whether JavaFX or Swing represented the future of Java's UI? While JavaFX seemed to be the golden child from Sun's perspective in that tussle, one wonders if Oracle, which may well be less interested in the project, won't instead keep the current UI framework going only because that means fewer resources invested. And lo and behold, SwingX, given up for dead by some, is now on the verge of 1.0 status. Meanwhile, the half-joking Swing 2.0 project over at Project Kenai seems to be going nowhere fast.

Oracle and Java client technologies ...

One thing made very clear by Larry Ellison last week during JavaOne ... he's very interested in the client side of things.

"Does JavaFX have a future at Oracle?" is pretty outdated in light of that, considering how much mention JavaFX got by the Oracle CEO ... going as far as saying he'd like to see a JFX version of OpenOffice.

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The Controller Decides

I think the point is the allocation of resources and priorities. Sun an Oracle have historically been very different.

So what we might see is a well used and liked project shelved or put on the back burner because the new controllers have different priorities. This probably can't be helped but is quite annoying to the interested parties.

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I believe Sun Microsystem and Adobe will fight back.

that can happen...

They may launch something to be on the lead.
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Well its been long since I heard much buzz about Sun. I think its high time they should do some thing very special and innovative.
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Time for Sun to act

I agree with you dude...its high time that Sun responded with something which vindicates its authority in the technical domain.

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I do like Java. Most of what I've done(non web work) has been acceptable(albeit very wordy and convoluted), and has worked on the first try. Beats the crap out of my experiences with C, C++, and Objective-C.

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This is really shocking

To hear that Java is being taken over by Oracle is shocking enough - but to see this blog article being taken over by lots of spammed comments / links is depressing.

It's a great site but can the moderator please do something to reduce this problem.

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SwingX is absolutely

SwingX is absolutely redundant. I don't know why they still are funding the project. Maybe they should find a better use of the money.
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The fact that they are

The fact that they are looking for is the allocation of resources. For very obvious reasons, Oracle has wisely eyed JFX, credit to the CEO.
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