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Reinvigorated Java IDEs
      #44919 - 03/27/07 12:30 AM

Have you used these three IDEs in real-world development projects? Tell us about your experience.

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Ignoring IntelliJ IDEA? Eclipse? [Re: JavaWorld]
      #44932 - 03/27/07 08:02 AM

Andrew,

I realize you were following up on an earlier article that focused on these three IDEs, but I don't understand how you could omit mentioning Jetbrain's IntelliJ IDEA and Eclipse. "JBuilder 2007 is the clear choice" - only if we're constraining our choice within this set of IDEs; one that doesn't represent the full set of choices.

FWIW: I have been using NetBeans and Eclipse heavily for the last two years. I recently switched to IntelliJ IDEA and it blows them both right out of the water.


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What about Eclipse? [Re: JavaWorld]
      #44934 - 03/27/07 09:12 AM

Why is it that the reviewer noted that 'the only other open-source IDE is Eclipse' and then failed to take that into account, concluding that 'if you want an open-source IDE, your only choice is NetBeans'?

Further, whilst tools like RAD 7 may be behind the times for Java support, Eclipse 3.3 will support Java 6 and is available now in preview form.

Overall, a biased review.


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Re: Ignoring IntelliJ IDEA? Eclipse? [Re: thoku]
      #44950 - 03/27/07 01:03 PM

Yes! I've used every IDE listed here, including Eclipse and others not covered by the article. Several of them have a couple of special features that makes them well-suited to specific tasks, but for overall completeness nothing comes close to IntelliJ. Nothing.

It's amazing how often I hear developers tell the same story: "I used IDE X, then IDE Y, but now I use IntelliJ, and it kicks butt."


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Re: Ignoring IntelliJ IDEA? Eclipse? [Re: thoku]
      #44952 - 03/27/07 02:09 PM

Correction: This article was also published on InfoWorld. Although they aren't mentioned in the JavaWorld article, if you look at the PDF version on Infoworld, it includes an inset at the end that mentions (very briefly) Eclipse, IntelliJ and Oracle JDeveloper as possible alternatives to consider.

Link to the PDF version on Infoworld


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Re: Ignoring IntelliJ IDEA? Eclipse? [Re: thoku]
      #44953 - 03/27/07 02:46 PM

Thank you thoku for pointing out the other IDEs that InfoWorld mentions in a separate article. Here's a link: http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/26/13FEjavaides-sb_1.html

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Re: Ignoring IntelliJ IDEA? Eclipse? [Re: JavaWorld]
      #44964 - 03/27/07 04:40 PM

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My only complaint about the user experience is that Sun does not use anti-aliased fonts, so text is more difficult to read than in Eclipse-based solutions.




Anti-aliased fonts can be turned on in the Advanced Options. I've used Eclipse and I couldn't find the anti-aliased fonts option anywhere, unless it already uses it, which, well, doesn't look anywhere near as good as Netbeans.

Also, the layout in Eclipse turns me off, it's just not as snazzy or sleek as others.


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without IntelliJ's IDEA it's hardly a review [Re: JavaWorld]
      #45140 - 03/30/07 07:05 PM

Of the dozens of serious Java developers I know they all use either IDEA or Eclipse with the majority using IDEA.

Was this review sponsored by IBM or Sun? I'll bet $5 it was.

This is always an interesting topic, but it's like you reviewed Internet search engines and left out Google. Almost comical really.

Here is a real review worth reading:
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/34009/1954?pf=true

Brendan


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Re: without IntelliJ's IDEA it's hardly a review [Re: BrendanPatterson]
      #47157 - 05/11/07 10:34 AM

I totally agree with you. I have used many IDEs mentioned in article in the past but nothing beats IntelliJ 6.0

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