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BEA's Patrick discusses Project Free Flow

Chief architect talks about SOA, WS, Sun Microsystems, Microsoft

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Patrick: Right. All of us realize that standardization is critical, because without the standardization, interoperability is significantly hampered. There are a lot of specs. If you look at the specs, the key is that they're for pieces of puzzles, and what the infrastructure vendors like BEA and such are going to need to do is to use those standards to solve those problems. A lot of people right now are using some of the open source Web services kits, if you will, and are now writing down to those lower-level specs themselves. And as those specs evolve, they can be fragile, and so part of this is, how do we as an industry get those things solidified and tied together? Instead of trying to build one spec for everything, define a set of building blocks on which to build things out of because not everybody will need everything.

InfoWorld: Are there any more specs coming out in any areas that haven't been already covered?

Patrick: There are a number of specs that are yet to come out. Not all will make it to a standard. One of the things that is really critical is, if we're going to have interoperability, we've got to start bringing some things together. There's been some good movement in, for instance, Liberty moving SAML and some of the basic federation capabilities into OASIS. Even Microsoft in their descriptions and discussions about Active Directory Federation Services has embraced SAML (Security Assertion Markup Language) as one of the primary token types used in the federation scheme. So we're beginning to see consolidation happening. And as that consolidation happens, we'll better benefit the industry and the consumers.

InfoWorld: How would you describe BEA's relationship with Sun? I guess it's been kind of strained since Sun put the bundled app server in a version of Solaris. Would you call Sun a partner or a competitor?

Patrick: We still work very closely together. BEA is a member of the Java Community Process. We work with the other people in the Java Community Process to drive standards. There are other app servers out there. Sometimes it's co-opetition. Sometimes, we're working together. I don't know that [Sun's bundling] has made a significant impact on us, per se.

InfoWorld: Would you say that maybe it had the same impact as JBoss offering a free open source app server, or is there just no way to measure impact at this point?

Patrick: I don't know that there's a good way to measure it at this point.

InfoWorld: After project Free Flow comes out, where does BEA go from there?

Patrick: Well, Free Flow is not a one-shot thing. Free Flow will evolve and grow as we start looking deeper into the market as service infrastructure begins to expand. There are plenty of places and issues that need to be resolved, important things having to do with contact space routing. I mean, there's a whole gamut of places to go. The question is, where are the right ones to go to and in which order? But we can think of a number of places that we'll need to go, as well as expanding and enhancing and enriching our Free Flow offering.

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Paul Krill is editor at large at InfoWorld.
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